Steady_T discusses DEC conversation & naysayer skeptics' unfounded conclusions / agenda

I talked to DEC this afternoon.

The stack test was conducted on Aug 17th.

Eyeball results of the data monitors as the data was collected was good. The final results will come back in reports after data analysis and data normalization.

The particulate test filters had nothing visible to the naked eye. That is way good.

3 different type of plastics were run. I didn't find out what they were.

DEC expects to receive the reports back very soon. There is a EPA annual reporting deadline coming up that is consuming much time for DEC and the labs that do the analysis. This happens every year. That may be why it has taken this long to get the reports back.

CRA and IsleChem are both involved in the permit application. There have been some people out on vacations.

DEC may require additional stack testing AFTER the permit is issued. They will decide that after the formal reports are presented in the application.

There were no issues raised by the stack test upon preliminary examination of the data.


My conclusion is that the application will be approved when submitted. The data suggests that the stack gasses look like a regular boiler gasses. The preliminary look at NOX, SOX, CO were that of a well controlled boiler.

Fill in your own pump here .............

It is quite naive to think that everyone plays nice in business.

A little research will yield many stories of dirt tricks played in the business world.

I don't know if "big oil" will try to stop JBII, but there are many other companies who's ox will be gored by JBII becoming successful.

I think that "big oil" would not be concerned about JBII and it's process. If JBII processed all of the plastic that is discarded in the USA, that would amount to about one days worth of oil imports to the US.

The ethanol producers have a real problem as will most of the biofuel producers. JBII will make their cost structure look quite bad. So I can see ADM being concerned about JBII.

Have you every looked into why we have R 134 as a replacement for Freon? It turns out that propane makes a nice drop in replacement for R 12. Dupont made a series of films for congress claiming that it was a serious fire hazard and got congress to outlaw using it. They used lot of staged explosions and showed burn victims. None of which occur when it is used because such small amount are required. It is widely used in Europe as a refrigerant.