Monday, May 31, 2010

"Stu" challenges naysayers' negative rhetoric


Mixed plastic is predominantly PET
Really? See good due-diligence would show that PET is a valuable recycled plastic, and in many countries is the single-most recycled plastic. It's not economical to use PET in P2O, since you can get paid more for it on the plastic market.

Sorted HDPE is more expensive than the oil used to make it
Sorted HDPE? Isn't that an oxymoron?

pyrolysis -- a well-known but relatively useless process
Gosh, better alert the 25 P2O competitors out there!!

The mix of liquid to gas can be varied simply by changing the temperature at which the reaction occurs.
Nuh uh.

(the whole log-burning analogy... brought tears to my eyes it was so funny)

JBII is a carbon copy of USSE/SSTP
The best argument most people have about JBI's P2O tech being a scam is that it fits the mold of another penny-stock scam. But do you call that research?

Without ever giving any evidence whatsoever that his oil is sellable and commercially viable You believe that anyone will have trouble selling diesel fuel and/or gas on the market? Because crude oil is just so much more convient, right? LOL

...Mr. Bordynuik being excruciatingly honest--which you can see he's not.
Funny, the 400+ people at the shareholder meeting didn't appear to think so -- it's only the armchair investment experts on iHub that claim this. Do you think there is a reason why among the 2000+ posts claiming JBI is a fraud, not a single one of them was written by a person who attended the AGM?

The "yield" that JBI claims is 98% refers to the cracking of EXISTING long "plastic" hydrocarbon chains into shorter diesel, gasoline, and natural gas chain lengths. This is not a claim that HC chains are being formed or created, merely broken at a desired length.

Repeat: 98% of the MASS of the existing hydrocarbon chains are broken into one of 3 chain lengths: 77% diesel, 13% gasoline, 9% natural gas. That leaves about 1%, which is the "residue".

That does not make any statement about what happens to paper, wood, metal, glass, oxygen, chlorides, ink, or any other material that is process with the "dirty unsorted plastic", which it would naturally have. What goes in will come out again, except for the plastic polymers that will be efficiently broken into valuable fuels.

The bottom line is 1kg plastic yields 1 litre of diesel/gasoline. If your "mixed plastic" is in fact 800g plastic and 200 peanut butter, then the number you need to use is 800g.

I hope the poor souls who are discovering JBI lately and stumble across this forum don't fall for the second-rate "I can spot a scam" posts. It's actually more like "I can spot a short"

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