Rawnoc analyzes and compares JBII's P2O so-called "competition"

Plast2Fuel/Agilyx = COMPETITOR OR BAD JOKE?

1. $5.6 million cost of a processor or 2700% more expensive than JBII's? Below is an example of a purchase agreement for the processor alone costing $5.6 million to make 151 barrels per day of "synthetic crude-like product" as their permit calls it. JBII's processor costs $200,000.

http://tinyurl.com/39soybq

2. A smaller processor costs $2 million to $2.5 million, claims to make 52 barrels per day, and requires 14 employees. Does the larger one require 28 employees vs. JBII's 2 and $200,000?

"An entry-level plant would probably cost $2 million to $2.5 million to set up and employ about 14 people, he says."

"An entry-level system would process about 20,000 pounds of plastic feedstock per day, producing about 2,200 gallons of crude oil."

http://portlandtribune.com/sustainable/story_2nd.php?story_id=127367768353395400

3. No claims on fuel quality nor emissions or pollution. In fact, their permit calls it a "synthetic crude-like product" (as opposed to JBII's diesel fuel) and warns of emissions/pollution:

"The combustion of natural gas and noncondensable gases in heating equipment releases small amounts of Particulate Matter (PM), Carbon Monoxide (CO), Nitrogen Oxide (NOx), and Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) to the air as products of incomplete combustion. VOCs are also emitted from the product storage tank when the tank vapor space is displaced from filling or thermal expansion (breathing losses). Some of the VOCs are classified as hazardous air pollutants (HAPs)."

http://tinyurl.com/2umurda

No wonder their FAQ on their website dodged the question:

Q: Have you performed a Greenhouse Gas/Carbon Footprint analysis?
A: Yes. The results show that the net carbon footprint of Agilyx’s technology is favorable.

Favorable?????????? Zero emissions from JBII is certainly far more favorable.

JBII is a viable P2O company. Not Plas2Fuel/Agilyx.

Let's review....

Plas2Fuel/Agilyx $5.6 million vs. JBII's $200,000 cost of processor
Plas2Fuel/Agilyx 14-28 employees vs. JBII's 2 employees
Plas2Fuel/Agilyx makes a "synthetic crude-like product" vs. JBII's high quality diesel
Plas2Fuel/Agilyx has toxic emissions. JBII has none.
Plas2Fuel/Agilyx doesn't even touch the issue of residue. JBII has very little residue.


You're reaching. On a side note, for example, I love how some refuse to acknowledge that JBII specifically stated near diesel is diesel with gasoline fractions that can be easily separated into diesel and gasoline but when you find some garbage laughable competitor you immediately take what they say at face value and spin their terrible data.

The $5.6 million is indeed for one large processor for Agilyx. You can spin it any way you want, but their own claim which may prove to be very optimistic is that it makes 150 or so barrels per day at maximum capacity. I don't care if you want to call that 1 processor or 500 million processors. It's a $5.6 million load of shit that has toxic emissions and requires somewhere between 14 and 28 people to operate just to make something they call "synthetic crude-like product" at a cost of $42/barrel.

It's amazing how there's been a dozen of so jokes of competitors like this thrown here and each and every one of them the skeptics who trash everything about JBII can't find a single fault with these competitors and are instantly in love with everything about them right away. Until I point out the details. Then there's a bit of arguing and defense, but they are interestingly rarely or never brought up again as competition.

Gee, I wonder why.

“Competing systems from Alphakat (Buttenheim, Germany), Ozmotech (Victoria, Australia) and Plas2Fuel (Washington, US) exist, but they have limitations of emissions, selective plastic input as well as high capital cost due to low processing efficiency,” said James Vance, project manager at IC2 Institute at the University of Texas.

http://www.livemint.com/2007/11/14001417/World-takes-note-of-Mumbai-sta.html

"Now that Plas2Fuel is reaching full capacity in Oregon, Bostwick stated that when all costs of manufacturing are accounted, the company produces synthetic crude from mixed plastics for $42 a barrel."

http://www.americanrecycler.com/0809/value.shtml

If anybody is foolishly excited about Plas2Fuel/Agilyx, just wait until they feast their eyes on JBII's process.

Raw