"Steady_T" comments on naysayer's P2O misinterpretation

Wow. I'm impressed. That is the biggest collection of misinterpretation I have seen on this board in a long while.

Lets start with the first one.

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this means nothing in terms of meeting the standard (ASTM D975) which is required to sell the fuel as "transportation" fuel.
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That standard is the spec for diesel fuel grades. Nothing difficult there. The usual tests which are routinely done by refineries and fuels test labs. All diesel fuel producers have to meet it. Since JBII is starting off with hydrocarbon feedstock they won't face the problems that the bio fuels face with removing esters and glycerin. This is a non-issue.

http://www.astm.org/Standards/D975.htm

Abstract

This specification covers seven grades of diesel fuel oils suitable for various types of diesel engines. These grades are: Grade No. 1-D S15; Grade No. 1-D S500; Grade No. 1-D S5000; Grade No. 2-D S15; Grade No. 2-D S500; Grade No. 2-D S5000; and Grade No. 4-D. The requirements specified for diesel fuel oils shall be determined in accordance with the following test methods: flash point; cloud point; water and sediment; carbon residue; ash; distillation; viscosity; sulfur; copper corrosion; cetane number; cetane index; aromaticity; lubricity; and conductivity.

Then there is this link you posted.

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Current as of Jun 25, 2010, JBII has NO EPA registration that would allow them to sell any fuel they produce
http://www.epa.gov/oms/regs/fuels/additive/web-fuel.htm
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OF course if you actually open that link you discover that it is a list of hundreds of registered fuels producers including every little biodiesel producer as well as the big boys like ARCO and BP.

IF the costs of compliance are anywhere close to what you suggest
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How much does this process cost? I don't know for sure but my guess is multi-millions.
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none of the biofuels would be there, but they are there listed by literally hundreds.

The EPA registration is a paperwork issue. Registration is routine.

Then there is your last link
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http://agr.wa.gov/bioenergy/docs/RenewableDieselWhitePaperFINAL.pdf
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Which I'm not sure why you put there as it seems to undermine your argument about the difficulties of JBII fuels being sellable.

I will quote a few selective paragraphs.

"Changing World Technologies has a TCP facility in Carthage, Missouri that produces bio-oil from turkey and pig slaughterhouse waste.17 The bio-oil produced by the Changing World Technology process purportedly meets ASTM D396, the standard for petroleum fuel oil and has been approved as a diesel fuel additive, but must be further refined to meet ASTM 975, the standard for transportation fuel.18"

If they can get turkey guts to meet the diesel fuel additive standards then imagine what JBII can do with hydrocarbons as an input.

Then there is this description of the EPA registration process.

EPA Registration
Because “renewable diesel” products are not derived from petroleum, they will require EPA registration. The Clean Air Act provides EPA with the authority to regulate fuels and fuel additives in order to reduce the risk to public health. The regulations at 40 CFR Part 79 require that each manufacturer or importer of gasoline, diesel fuel, or a fuel additive, have its product registered by EPA prior to its introduction into commerce.18, 19 Registration involves providing a chemical description of the product and certain technical, marketing and health-effects information. This allows EPA to identify the likely combustion and evaporative emissions. In certain cases, health-effects testing is required for a product to maintain its registration or before a new product can be registered. EPA uses this information to identify products whose emissions may pose an unreasonable risk to public health, warranting further investigation and/or regulation.

Interesting exercise in information presentation.

Thanks for providing a pleasant diversion.