Rawnoc compares P2O to biodiesel

I finally decided to look at SSTP which I was told is "an identical carbon copy to JBII" and I nearly pissed myself laughing. Exxon is a closer "carbon copy to JBII" than SSTP. After all, Exxon actually sells to refineries, something biomass fuel systems don't even do, correct? lol :)

"The first step is to collect the biomass feedstock that will be converted into fuel. The Rivera Process can use a vast number of renewable biomass feedstocks which include but are not limited to non-food agricultural waste such as inedible soybeans or other waste from production of food crops, switch grass, animal manure, byproducts of the lumber industry, restaurant food waste, sludge from wastewater treatment plants, coconut husks, jatropha nuts, invasive plant species, seaweed, algae, and even municipal solid organic wastes (MSW)."


And this is the "carbon copy identical business model" to JBII??????????????? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gee, now if SSTP can't find a refinery to buy their rotten soybeans, how the hell is JBII going to be able to sell high grade low sulfur diesel fuel? ROFL!!!!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!

Rotten soy beans? I think IBM is closer to being a "sister company" to JBII than SSTP. I honestly thought I had the wrong symbol when I went to go look up this "identical carbon copy business model"

Pretending biodiesel is the same as petroleum diesel...

(1) Rotten Soybeans are made from the sun. Plastic is made from crude oil.

(2) SSTP never claimed to make DIESEL from rotten soybeans (or if they did then you anybody who believed them is dumber than a box of rocks.) SSTP is/was claiming to make BIOdiesel from rotten soybeans. Nowhere in the history of JBII did they ever claim to make BIODIESEL from anything.

(3) The reason SSTP couldn't sell to refineries is because no biodiesel fuel is sold to refineries. DUH!!! lol PETROLEUM refineries refine.....*drum roll please* -- PETROLEUM! Who could have guessed? They don't buy SSTP's rotten soybeans because they don't buy ANYBODY'S biodiesel.

(4) Biodiesel fuel gets refined at a biorefinery.

Disclaimer -- I spent a fraction of "30 minutes" researching this, armed with Google. And even then I lost concentration as I was laughing hysterically the entire time just thinking about biodiesel from rotten soybeans being compared to JBII's petroleum diesel and the attempts to try to label them as the exact same type of fuel. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

"Current processes used in the industry require excessive amounts of energy which often make alternative fuels not viable. Recently, many biodiesel facilities have filed bankruptcy because their energy conversion costs exceed the value of the diesel product they produce.

In addition to biodiesel there are companies that have announced they will be converting plastic and/or tires to oil using processes that do not utilize a catalyst. Management believes that these companies face the same challenges as the biodiesel producers.

In particular these producers have the following challenges:

· High-energy requirements;

· Very poor energy return;

· As oil prices rise, these processes won't necessarily be more viable;

· Large plants incur high transportation costs of raw and processed materials;

· Algae biodiesel presently costs $32/gallon to produce;

· Biodiesel factories are heavily dependent on commodity prices of raw materials and energy prices;

Trying to put the same label on BIOdiesel and petroleum diesel is just laughable.

I don't know much about that other POS foolishly being compared to P2O, but 30 seconds of Google reveals...

Biodiesel economics means shift from soybeans
"You can't make any money at all on soybean oil," said John Samsel, president of Center Alternative Energy. And that's with the $1 per gallon tax credit that biodiesel blenders receive from the federal government.

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/02/biodiesel_economics_means_shif.html

Soybean oil feedstock cost = $5/gallon
P2O feedstcok cost = $0/gallon

Management intends to exploit its technology to overcome the challenges facing alternative energy corporations, in particular the Plastics2Oil process start up cost is considered to be considerably less than other processes that attempt to convert plastic to oil."
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